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“swing like that without Donald Trump at the top of the…” — Pod Save America at 37:43

“swing like that without Donald Trump at the top of the ballot. I totally agree with that. But I do think in Texas, it feels like they're pretty well protected with this version of the gerrymander. And it's tough. I don't know. We'll see. Not for midterms is much different, but we'll see. Trump plus 10 is tough. Yeah.…”

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