“And there has to be a real wave and momentum. And if you…” — Pod Save America at 1:05:33
“And there has to be a real wave and momentum. And if you look at these polling, you can actually tell yourself a story that we're heading towards that possibility. And you can also say we're not heading, right? Like the polling gives you both options. So I just don't think we know. So Matt Iglesias, who's been rather…”
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