“I don't want to say sober, but a very fact-based website.…” — Pod Save America at 1:24:32
“I don't want to say sober, but a very fact-based website. He talked about, you know, how the New York Times was sort of a model in some ways because they cared about facts. Yeah, I remember that really playing out quite like that. That was the early pitch, wasn't it? That was the early pitch, and that was the first…”
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