“He obviously was, you know, supporting the administration…” — Pod Save America at 1:31:54
“He obviously was, you know, supporting the administration for the most part, but he tried to maintain like a little bit of personal, I think, distance from Trump during that first term. And I think that made the show in some ways like more interesting. I mean, not just to like sort of regular viewers, but I think to…”
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