“I think he realized that the place that he kind of held…” — Pod Save America at 1:37:15
“I think he realized that the place that he kind of held in, you know, in Washington society was no longer tenable because of Trump. I mean, he was always kind of the, you know, like the invited skunk to the garden party, you know, like liberal DC people would have him for, you know, dinner parties and go out with him…”
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