“I think it's important to think of him not as a media…” — Pod Save America at 1:47:44
“I think it's important to think of him not as a media figure, but as a political operator. I mean, because that's kind of the way he runs his media operation. And he doesn't just want to be a podcaster. And, you know, I think he really wants to change the country. And I think the question for him is going to be, can…”
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