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“The way you would run for president now is so different…” — Pod Save America at 1:48:53

“The way you would run for president now is so different than it was four years ago, eight years ago, 12 years ago. In a way, I mean, Trump is just, you're a media figure. And that's the way Trump could do it. I mean, he'd probably have to get out of his bubble a little bit, but not as much as maybe you might think.…”

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