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“I think for Katie, I think Katie's the one person that…” — 20/20 at 16:36

“I think for Katie, I think Katie's the one person that stopped falling for John's tactics. And I think that's what really spurred a lot of this on. You never know what could happen with someone who is just proven to be such a violent individual. Like you said, this was not some sort of accidental”

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