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“Drumming was key. Without drumming, I don't think I would…” — Freakonomics Radio at 20:42

“Drumming was key. Without drumming, I don't think I would have had more than a passing relationship maybe when Feynman was over at our house because my father was a professor of physics at Caltech as Feynman was, and they did work on some projects together, most notably what are called the big red books, the Feynman…”

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