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“So that kind of tells you who the real founders are. Mike…” — Acquired at 30:32

“So that kind of tells you who the real founders are. Mike cashed out pre-IPO, right? No, no, no, no, no. Mike actually hung in there longer than anybody. So the thing about Mike is that Don Valentine had been told about the two Steves. And Don was already an elite, leading venture guy in the 1970s. And had come from…”

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