“And that's when a couple of colleagues and I flew to…” — Acquired at 1:17:16
“And that's when a couple of colleagues and I flew to Denver and got on the train. Because John famously doesn't fly. Yeah. And he wasn't at the Madden Cruiser yet. He was still taking Amtrak. He eventually got tired of the limited train schedule. But we basically got on a train and the train went west. And for two…”
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