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“They're a third-party program. I did not know that. I…” — Acquired at 1:42:30

“They're a third-party program. I did not know that. I found that out much later. Meanwhile, I'm thinking, I don't have to make this deal with Sega. This is the thing about any kind of negotiation. You need to have leverage. And being able to be committed to a position helps you get leverage. Because the other side…”

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