“who, by the way, ended up becoming a football coach. So…” — Acquired at 12:58
“who, by the way, ended up becoming a football coach. So we're really into football. And so there's a, you can think of that in today's terminology, that would be about, you know, prototyping and building a minimum viable product. So we did that. And then I thought, well, hey, why don't I actually market this? And my…”
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