“and the ugliest side of him coming out. So it made me a…” — Pod Save America at 17:04
“and the ugliest side of him coming out. So it made me a little anxious about that. Yeah, because I remember to like watching that first debate and when they were yelling at each other, it was like, oh, this is just, it's just bad. To Stacey's earlier point about like the most important thing you do is like talk…”
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