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“Joe Biden needs to change something at this debate. If we…” — Pod Save America at 24:13

“Joe Biden needs to change something at this debate. If we come out of this debate and it's a story about how Donald Trump and Jake Tapper were mixing it up, well, that's a problem. And I don't, like, I think just as much as, like, whatever. Like, I don't think Jake Tapper or Dana Bash want to be the story out of this…”

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