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“Yeah, I think, you know, we've seen a trend over, I would…” — CyberWire Daily at 18:13

“Yeah, I think, you know, we've seen a trend over, I would say, the last decade or so where, again, in the beginning, you know, again, technology was thought to be the primary aspect of cybersecurity. You know, the thinking was, oh, the IT department is going to handle cybersecurity. And that was a thinking that was…”

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