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“He's trying to say that the unfairness in the criminal…” — Pod Save America at 8:07

“He's trying to say that the unfairness in the criminal justice system, which a lot of people will believe it's unfair, that he's trying to make himself be part of that, right, to get sympathy. And I think you have to separate him from most other defendants, most other people who've been convicted, most other people…”

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