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“has not been able to have effect, right? I think to the…” — Decoder with Nilay Patel at 45:41

“has not been able to have effect, right? I think to the extent that you're seeing all of this, it's a product of the fact that our legitimate political means of effect in the situation have been effectively taken away. When that happens, when people's ability to legitimately engage in the political process is taken…”

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