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“They were all in on EVs by whatever date they would say on…” — Decoder with Nilay Patel at 13:56

“They were all in on EVs by whatever date they would say on the show. The CEO of Rivian, RJ Strange, came on the show and made fun of Ford for basically taking the dimensions of the Model Y and making the Mustang Mach-E exactly a Model Y. And he was like, I don't think that's how this goes. Like, you have to…”

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