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“Right, so that he was willing to lie, but like in such a…” — Pod Save America at 28:13

“Right, so that he was willing to lie, but like in such a kind of dangerous and unhinged way. In that Atlantic piece, there is an anecdote about basically this sort of shitty judge in Texas upbraiding him for not wearing a tie. It's like a very specific story, but he's so agitated by it. He keeps coming back to his…”

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