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“It's just obviously the goal. And of course, you know, his…” — The Vergecast at 1:17:31

“It's just obviously the goal. And of course, you know, his backers and big telecom will be happy. So that's just very dumb. And it's just a piece of what I was saying at the beginning of like a pattern in Trump administrations is if we stop measuring things, they will go away, which I'm guessing for the virtual…”

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