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“So I think what's happening is they're building a lot…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 11:51

“So I think what's happening is they're building a lot better tooling to make this easier. And I think that's where we'll see. And I still have one last question, which is if you have a business that is working, it's making money. It has a rhythm. You have customers who are used to certain things.”

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