“To have a say, it makes it much easier for the president…” — Sidebar at 24:11
“To have a say, it makes it much easier for the president to just decide based on politics or based on his own feelings who to pardon and who to not give a pardon to. And that is one of the concerns that we've heard about this new system that the White House is setting up is that some of these guardrails that are in…”
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