“Someone who's pardoned, it's almost as if they were never…” — Sidebar at 7:20
“Someone who's pardoned, it's almost as if they were never convicted in the first place. So if they're in jail, they're immediately allowed out of jail. While a commutation still leaves that thing on your record, pardon does not leave a conviction on your record. And pardons can also go to people who have already…”
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