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“over promote the stuff that they've got. Like I think it…” — CyberWire Daily at 24:58

“over promote the stuff that they've got. Like I think it helps the whole industry to know where things are at. And I come from that background. I'm a pen tester at heart and I've always seen, you know, the vendor messaging and it's like second nature. If you work in security, you have to see the messaging and then…”

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