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“the most likely routine is to work for a company that is a…” — Software Engineering Daily at 48:43

“the most likely routine is to work for a company that is a member or if your company is small, but in the right space for your company to join and that gets you a seat at the table. Do your own lunacy. Yeah. Well, whether you do your own, definitely there are, you know, if you're a GPU contractor type company…”

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