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“the start of it and transitioning from OpenGL and OpenGL…” — Software Engineering Daily at 8:01

“the start of it and transitioning from OpenGL and OpenGL ES to Vulkan. You mentioned that there was a need for Vulkan and that's when you started working on it. What was that need? Can you give us the run-up in the history to Vulkan? Sure. So if you go, boy, it's shocking how long ago this was. So go back to, say…”

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