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“And I'm extremely aware of the surveillance hellscape.…” — The Vergecast at 1:37:50

“And I'm extremely aware of the surveillance hellscape. That's why I keep using the example because it's the one that personally for me is like, oh, that'd be great, but the trade-off isn't worth it. And I just, first of all, experiencing algorithmic containment breaches is wild. I hope no one experiences it. It's…”

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