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“I hate so much that you're exactly correct. That somewhere…” — The Vergecast at 1:36:50

“I hate so much that you're exactly correct. That somewhere there was a meeting where they were like, how are our members going to communicate their status in a digital world? And somebody was like, make the app black. And they were like, you're a genius. You're promoted. It's $900 a year. This sucks. I don't like it…”

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