“in pervasive efforts to undermine American confidence, but…” — Sidebar at 18:00
“in pervasive efforts to undermine American confidence, but also undermine the Ukrainians to sow doubt in Ukraine to undermine Zelensky in Ukraine. And the Kremlin said, the official spokesman said that what Trump is doing largely aligns with Russia's interests. And so I think Trump likes to see himself as this person…”
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