“not his passion but he's not very good at it because he's…” — Pod Save America at 33:14
“not his passion but he's not very good at it because he's also not very charismatic and so I don't think he can pull it off that well and I know he thinks he's clever enough to sort of split the baby on this but he's not. Yeah the gap between how clever J.D. Vance thinks he is and how clever J.D. Vance actually”
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