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“for incarcerative sanction for violating the gag order.…” — Pod Save America at 44:40

“for incarcerative sanction for violating the gag order. And Judge Merchan himself said, like, I'm really loathe to put you in jail. You are a former president. You may be a future president. I'm really loathe to do that. And none of that has changed, right? He's still a former president. He may be the future…”

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