“a lot of the people who are making the argument against a…” — Pod Save America at 31:27
“a lot of the people who are making the argument against a switch are doing it in denial of polling reality. They say all the polls are rigged, it's margin of error, all of that, without any evidence of proving that. I think that there is a good faith argument to be made, and some people are making it, that the risk…”
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