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“That's the thing. I mean, they filed legal challenges as…” — Sidebar at 25:12

“That's the thing. I mean, they filed legal challenges as well. In fact, they created something after leaving office that's modeled after the ACLU, and they filed a battery of lawsuits that stymied Biden's policies or tried to, and some were unsuccessful. Some important ones were unsuccessful. But this is what both…”

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