“in the way Rubio has seen Venezuelan TPS holders, in the…” — Sidebar at 27:14
“in the way Rubio has seen Venezuelan TPS holders, in the way Trump has seen them. There was a flip. But it does feel that at least months ago, from what we can see, they might have been planning this in a way knowing it would go up to the courts and being ready for those challenges. And the other point I'll make is…”
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