“Well, and that's the question. If you don't have to prove…” — Sidebar at 28:06
“Well, and that's the question. If you don't have to prove that they're gang members, you know, are people who aren't gang members, who have nothing to do with this, who happen to be from the region, for example, Aragua in Venezuela, are they going to get swept up in this? Are they going to be tagged in that way? Or…”
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