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“Now, that's unusual. Usually if the president's going to…” — Sidebar at 4:24

“Now, that's unusual. Usually if the president's going to sign something and make a proclamation, he's literally going to make that public. We didn't proclaim it. Exactly. Yeah. And they didn't. So the ACLU was preparing for this law, but were they taken off guard as well? I think they've been preparing for this for a…”

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