“issue for politicians. So if you were just looking at…” — Sidebar at 11:45
“issue for politicians. So if you were just looking at surface level of what Holman is saying, most Americans would say, yeah, we want to be protected from gangs. But the concern a lot of groups like the ACLU is having is that this is not the right process. It's done in the cloak of darkness. It's done in the middle…”
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