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“Certain individuals are repelled by this. I was a boxer…” — Acht Milliarden: Der Auslands-Podcast des SPIEGEL at 6:15

“Certain individuals are repelled by this. I was a boxer and a wrestler, both very mediocre. But I would point out that this kind of sport, I think, first of all, the health of the combatants is at risk when you have basically no rules except for eye gouging kind of a sport. And second of all, it appeals to the lowest…”

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