“The basic point is, we didn't win that one. Well, I think…” — Pod Save America at 24:30
“The basic point is, we didn't win that one. Well, I think democracy is, some people, they said it was a normal issue. They didn't say they liked it. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. It was an issue. The thing, I think it's going to be very hard for him to make it.”
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