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“He has, whether it works or not, remains to be seen. He…” — Pod Save America at 45:39

“He has, whether it works or not, remains to be seen. He does have a theory of the case of like how he wants to reach out to people who may not vote Democrat. And part of it is, you know, he's a man of faith. He speaks about it openly and he's going to all these different places that are the Democrats haven't won. And…”

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