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“I mean, it's obviously a big deal for the map, but I think…” — Pod Save America at 48:45

“I mean, it's obviously a big deal for the map, but I think that for this White House and for Trump, like they cannot handle any defection, any defeat, particularly, you know, from Republicans. Right. And you're not supposed to be disloyal. It's the worst thing. And now that this is out there and this has happened…”

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