“Let's try sovereignty. Let's try some international rule…” — Pod Save America at 1:21:08
“Let's try sovereignty. Let's try some international rule of law, the rules-based system. And I know it's not perfect. And I know we violated it from time to time. But there was a general notion that that's what you're trying. Trump wants to get rid of all that. And that's why he's more on Putin's side in Eastern…”
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