“A realist basically believes that liberal democracy…” — Pod Save America at 1:26:25
“A realist basically believes that liberal democracy, pluralism, greater freedom and opportunity for all is a better way to live, but understands that we're not in a position to force the entire world to do that. And we occasionally have to work with people who aren't going to meet that ideal. So we're going to be…”
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