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“It does seem like zero sum, a view of the world that is…” — Pod Save America at 1:27:28

“It does seem like zero sum, a view of the world that is zero sum politics, both abroad and, you know, it matches what they're doing here and the policies they have here, which is just this, you know, the strong survive, survival of the fittest and the weak can just, you know, deal with it. There was one more thing.…”

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