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“It's difficult, but I think that he did seem to lean into…” — Pod Save America at 21:19

“It's difficult, but I think that he did seem to lean into that. I mean, you know, we went through, it reminds me of DACA, right? It was election year, re-election year, June of 2012, when we finally, our legal team in the White House and Justice and DHS finally figured out how you could do DACA. So it's the same…”

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