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“in much of the polling. And so we kind of make, it fits…” — Pod Save America at 30:56

“in much of the polling. And so we kind of make, it fits with some of the trends. Now, I guess the question here for you is, how do you win these folks back, right? Is it building up Biden? Is it tearing down Trump? Is it a little of both? What do you think? It is a little of both. I think, you know, and I've talked…”

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