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“Maybe it's because I'm just so numb to Trump after all of…” — Pod Save America at 35:19

“Maybe it's because I'm just so numb to Trump after all of these years, but I find J.D. Vance to be more infuriating to watch. Just the smugness, the high school debate champ energy he gets off when he does it, the lack of charisma, the whole thing is just so infuriating.”

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