“I mean, obviously, it's it's chilling to hear him talk…” — Pod Save America at 24:37
“I mean, obviously, it's it's chilling to hear him talk like that. But I do think that that the messaging argument against him on this has been challenging. Right. People think he's a clown. They think he's funny. They don't see how scary he is. And the more that other people start saying, know your history, like…”
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