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“Right. Whereas the folks who have been in the purple…” — Pod Save America at 52:28

“Right. Whereas the folks who have been in the purple states have been working on it for some time. And it is some of the reddest parts of this country are in the bluest states. And you got to worry about like I talked to you about all the challenges that might that might win. But there's also people like Johanna…”

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